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Old 10-20-2011, 04:53 PM   #15
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Did the POR-15 on the frame today, getting welded tomorrow. I know it is the wrong order, but I was impatient! Got the POR-15 all over my arms, so not too attractive.

Now I am really trying to decide if I should keep the floor plan the same, or change it to a Bubble type of floor plan. Really torn!!!!!
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:24 PM   #16
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Don't worry about the POR 15 on your arms. It'll wear off in a few months!

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Old 10-21-2011, 06:11 PM   #17
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Help! Anyone seen these before?

I just took off my hubs, and I have to say I have never seen this type of break before. Has anyone else? Has anyone been able to replace a break like this with a new traditional kind?
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:43 PM   #18
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I'm reading watching and admiring. What do you mean by 'bubble' floorpan? Keep up the good work.
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Old 10-21-2011, 07:36 PM   #19
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The Bubble floor plan has the bed across the back and the bathroom in the front corner by the door. The dinette is turned on its side opposite the door. The bathroom will be the same size in both places, but the access is better with the Bubble plan. The bed placement will be better with the Bubble plan, but the Traveler plan can have more of a bedroom feel with the bathroom in the back next to the bed........oh I am so indecisive!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 10-21-2011, 07:57 PM   #20
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I just took off my hubs, and I have to say I have never seen this type of break before. Has anyone else? Has anyone been able to replace a break like this with a new traditional kind?
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I have the same. They are made by Hadco. www. hadcoengineering.com. I too am about to replace mine. I cannot find a replacement. Most modern brake assemblies are all contained on the back plate. I was told by Southwest Wheel that I would not find parts. He knew what I was talking about and named them, but I do not remember the name of these type brakes. I am going to contact Hadco and ask if there are brakes that will work. But more than likely I will opt for a complete new axle/brakes/drums. I am going from these 12 inch to 10 inch drums. This should not be a problem as the 12 inch are rated to 5200# and the 10 inch for 3500#. But I am no expert and may be wrong. Also, I have not seen any new 12 inch 5 lung hubs/drums. They all seem to be 6 or 8 lugs.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:32 PM   #21
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Thanks for the quick reply. In all my airstream dreams, i never considered a forward bath. What a concept.
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:06 AM   #22
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Bubble layout

Here are the factory specs for the Bubble. My trailer is 2 feet longer, so I have a little be of flexibility if I go this route. Ugh! Wish I was decisive!
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Old 10-24-2011, 12:32 PM   #23
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More on the brakes. I talked to Hadco. This is what they say will work.
The brakes are called Warner Electric and parts are no longer available.
My Brakes drums are 12 inch so this all applies to 12" drums.
My hubs are 5 lug on 5 1/2 pattern. Again, this applies to what I have.

New brakes assembly, parts 518162 (right) 518163 (left) - $62 each
New brake armature, to replace the three piece plate inside the drum (left in your picture). My drum is stamped 412. Part 520067 - $45 each

If you want new drums, they are $100 each. Not sure what the part number is as I was told my drum is compatable.

I can get a whole new axle/brakes/10" drums, rated 3500 pounds, from Southwest Tire for about $350 when all said and done.

New axle, but smaller brakes (local no delivery) $350
Replacement parts+shipping $250

If you call Hadco, ask for Adele. She was very knowledgable.
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:17 PM   #24
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Thank you for this information! I also have 12" drums, but I have 6 lug on 5 1/2 pattern. But I am happy to see that I can get new brakes for this backing plate and hub.
I will give Adele a call, I think she helped me before with a different trailer axle.
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Old 10-26-2011, 11:36 PM   #25
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The day before yesterday I cut out and painted my plywood floor. I used the Zinsser oil based primer. I had two recommendations for that surprisingly enough. I am going to coat the edges with the Tempro as well.
Yesterday I did a dry fit of the floor. It seems it may be about a 1/4" longer, but I am hoping I can cram the sheets closer together. Today I put a second coat of paint on half of my frame, and am waiting for the rest of my POR15 to show up in the mail! I also sanded the bottom of my C-Channels for the ends. They were very corroded so I primed them with Aluminum Primer to give it a longer life. I picked up new C-Channel for the rest of the floor from the fabricator yesterday. I think the C-Channel looks like the pieced that are used between the ribs as well.
I will post pictures tomorrow. I couldn't find my camera tonight!
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Here are the factory specs for the Bubble. My trailer is 2 feet longer, so I have a little be of flexibility if I go this route. Ugh! Wish I was decisive!
How do you get into the road side front corner of the dinette, crawl under the table?
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:02 PM   #27
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LOL! There is more room in reality than it looks like in the photo. Here is a friends Bubble that shows that spot.
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Old 10-27-2011, 05:05 PM   #28
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Photo updates!

Here are the updated photos for what I have been doing this week. Cutting out and painting the underside of the floor. Painting the underside of the end C-Channels. Dry fitting the floor and arrival of my two grey water tanks! I can't decide if I should make banana wrap for my belly pan. The old pan was wrapped over the C-Channel, so that would need to go in before putting the shell back on, but I have lots of work to do under the floor first. I am also trying to decide what to do with the wheel tubs. Mine was a dual tub with a layer of fiberglass insulation in between. The outer layer is in bad shape. Not sure what I am going to do yet.
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