[2airishuman]

when/where did you last visit africa mr schwamborn?


i had planned to make informed, educated responses to your list of issues dale...

but in short order this thread will be all about guns and other lowest order wise cracks....

think talk radio.

yes needing a transfusion is one issue.

this can be dealt with by creating a database of blood types for people going on the trip and establishing an internal donor base should the need arrise.

there are also now highly refined blood substitutes that can be used.

and this all assumes a catastrophic injury takes place...

did ANYONE need a blood transfusion on the '59 trip? that would have been equally dangerous for other reasons....

it's true some diseases are present now that were not in the 50s...

but in the 50s malaria was pretty common in the usa too!

communication and evacuation is much better now...

medications and mobile medical equipment is better now...

i know what antibiotics and cardiac care was available in the 50s....very very primative stuff.

folks are fatter now and the risks are different...

you've posted several times that only zero risk is acceptable and 100% safety is needed...

u r dreaming IF you think the 50s trip had this....

what has changed is YOUR preception of risk....

from age 20 (fearless) to age 70 (realist)

suggesting islamic growth in africa is dangerous, is just silly and reveals more about YOUR beliefs than islamic beliefs....

saying any more on these topics will only make this thread too HOT and it will get closed/edited or deleted.

religious issues/conflicts have existed for thousands of years, and so religious enlightenments.

it's obvious you're proud of the talented folks that traveled in the 50s....

this group has many of the same talents along with folks that have actually LIVED in several of the countries. a lot of world travelers are signed up.

the fifties trips were RISKY and in retrospect they were groundbreaking....

currently there are DOZENS of overland caravans running from capetown to cairo and back...

on foot, on bikes, in motorcars, in rvs and so on...

the guided trip business is BIG and growing right now.

going now has risks too. so does going to chicago or miami or los angles.

tourism is a major part of the african economy now and growing fast. this can have a positive and stablizing influence at the local level.

the usa already buys more OIL from the african continent than all of the middle east combined....

while the economic development focus is asia and the old soviet and china regions...

africa is about to emerge big time....

suggesting this trip risks tarnishing the names of the current/ useless wbcci, or the a/s corp or wally is really double speak for...

"we did it, but you can't"

cheers
2air'